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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello people,

I am a french Canadian and new member here.

I am reading a lot of posts and, pardon my french, I do not know what a "STONE" weights???

... A horse should not wear more than "12 stones" ?

So please help me Laughing

1 stone = ??? pounds ??? or ??? kilo ???

Thank you all ! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

One stone is 14 pounds.

Hope this helps Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

For sure it does!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Plenty of horse with good bone and confirmation can carry more than 12stone.
Thought I would stick thst in incase ppl start worrying they are to heavy for their horses.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I guess it is different for each horse.

The age... Before 6-7 I think it is better not to put excessive weight because the spine is not finish yet.

Also, the length of the back. Horses with shorter back are more resistant to heavy charge.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Your right it is many factors, breed/age/height/bone/condition...
Though I have seen & known ppl of a bigger frame riding 3/4yr & horse in teens/20's and so far horse has shown no ill effect.
I knew a very rounded woman she won't buy a horse under 15 yrs and plods around on them all day, and horses look full of energy, yet I wouldn't of paired her with these older horse.
Though if you want a real fright look on dragon diving , it's where it gets ott with full grown men riding little 11/12hh ponies, not the stocky sort either.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

kay wrote:
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Though I have seen & known ppl of a bigger frame riding 3/4yr & horse in teens/20's and so far horse has shown no ill effect.


...Maybe not now but think of that horse a few years later... With a sore back and (I don't know how to express this exactly in english but...) with their back all curvy and not a straight line anymore... And not talking about joint articulations in a very bad shape.

kay wrote:
it's where it gets ott with full grown men riding little 11/12hh ponies


I call that "cruelty"

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think the lighter you can be is better for the horse, having said that some poor riders can sit wrong and do a lot more damage than you realize x

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I do agree with you Valerie,

A heavy rider could do less damage than a lighter one who does not know how to ride properly to manage the horse's back.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I agree. you must not think that because you ride a draught horse you can make it too load bearing on the back. A good saddle is absolutely vital as well, particularly if you are a bit heavy. It's the long term damage which makes it just not worth doing. A shire can pull a dray with a couple of people on board but the weight is distributed differently.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

l believe the optimum weight a horse should carry is 10-15% of their own weight. So if, like my oldest horse, it weighs 750kg then the rider should weigh no more than 112kg (17st 6lb)

People argue the "i may be heavy but i ride light", i agree the way you ride is a huge factor but ultimately the horse still has to carry the weight.

I have a 5yo mare and a 22yo gelding and i personally would never ask them to carry more than 14st for any period of time, and yes, ive enforced that on days where i have done public rides. I weigh 12st, so for my gelding i am 10% of his weight and my mare weighs 800kg so i am 9% of her weight, and i know i am overweight for my height.

theres been some research and media coverage into this topic:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9950467/Easy-rider.-Why-horses-are-feeling-the-strain-of-Britains-obesity-crisis.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am a large lady, I actually weigh 19 stone, I have a 17hh Irish Draught who carries me all day long. I would rather have an Irish Draught carry my weight than a dray horse.
I know my weight is not ideal, but a medical condition dictates this weight for me and sadly whilst the weight comes off (I used ti be heavier) its so slow and goes up and down

I love my horse, we dont compete we just plod but his happy and so am I Smile

Please dont shoot me down for being honest
I once took an 8 year break from riding due to my size and gave up horses alltogether and it was the most miserable time of my life!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

No one should be shooting anyone down BigBum Smile it's a very heated topic isn't it and ultimately if the horse is happy then everyone's happy. Personally I always get my horses' back checked at the same time as their teeth are done as a kind of annual mot but a lot is to be said for good old plain 'knowing your horse'. I can tell immediately if something is bothering either of my 2 and I'm sure the same can be said for most if not all on this forum Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

BB you know your horse better than we do and I would never shoot you down for being honest.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I know guys Very Happy
I am happy and the main thing is so is my horse Smile

We only plod around anyway, his very lucky if he gets the odd bit if Canter, but he cant be arsed either lol
Although I have to say when he wants to buck, I definately make no difference to him although he does not do it very often Smile

Very heated subject, thankfully I am strong minded with my horse and know he is happy but have seen so many people out there that have not been and then gave up horses altogether when actually their horse was very happy. Its so so sad Sad
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