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floss
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Everyone,
Wonder if you can help me please?
I've just bought a new shire about three months ago(a nine year old), and I started feeding him about a month ago(just a token feed while I fed our other shire whose 20yrs old now and doesn't put the weight on so quickly)

The problem is that he has piled the weight on far too much!
He now has a stubbs scoop of sixteen plus mix and a scoop of chaff, and he's on a really good five acre field.
That to me does not sound like too much of a feed at all, but me and my partner are now at loggerheads on what to feed him.
I've been with and owned horses for 40 years, and have always been in the mind set of feeding lots(mainly because my old tb that was 30 yrs old this year has always struggled to keep his weight on .) So I now feel foolish for letting my big man get over weight.
Can anyone advise please?
many thanks
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RutlandH2O
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi floss.

Sounds like you've got a really good-doer. You could easily halve the Sixteen Plus and keep the chaff to the scoop you are already giving your boy. If he's got a good five acre field, you could almost scrap the hard feed, if you think he's really piled on the weight. Good luck.
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floss
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi ,
Thanks ever so much for the feed back.
I suppose I'm just not used to such a good doer after having tb's!

Once again thanks for your help Smile
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Lizzy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Bran, chaff and a bit of pasture mix or 16+, I would prefer two smaller buckets a day rather than one big one. In addition to this pasture, hay or haylage and that is all they need. If he is working then of course he will need more but not if he is standing around doing nothing all day.
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johnbr3
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Folks.
(RutlandH20, my neck of the woods. . .)

I've had my Shire Mare for around 9 Months and I think we have the diet absolutely right for her.

I must start by saying that my Wife is German and, if you want to really know anything about anything, the Germans are the one sin the know. I surprisingly find much more useful information on German sites than UK sites, particularly for Heavy Horses. My Wife and I also do a lot of research regarding our own dietary requirements, thus the reason for trying to explain the whole picture.

So:
Heavy horses have a completely different metabolism to other horses, and much research has shown that Shires (heavies) require very LOW Protein diets. It is acceptable to balance feed with grazing, and other chaffs etc, I won't use the terminology of hard feeds as we don't do hard feed as such.
The point here is, even a very small scoop (daily) of high protein Chaff for a heavy could possibly be enough to aid weight gain.
We have tailored My ponies (that's what I call my 18hh of lean meat!) diet over the last Months and very pleased with her shape. We also give her Multi Vitamins in order to keep her immune system balanced and honed, this helps to minimise Mud Fever and generally keeps her in good order.

We feed: (which in all honesty is ,ore or less just Fibre, not Feed!)
Alan Paige Fast Fibre (large scoop (Not Stubbs Scoop) twice daily, mixed with
Molichaff, Apple or Herb (lowest protein chaff available), 2 to 3 scoops twice daily.
In this she has Global Herbs MultiVite (3 scoops evening only)

She also has a mahoosive hay net for the evening (she is stabled in winter months) but doesn't always eat it and she is turned out every day, although the grazing is really poor

I'm NOT suggesting that I am a feed specialist or actively promoting Chaff or other stuff and have fairly new experience with Shires (all though many many years experience of horses), but have learnt a massive amount form German friends and media.

Hope this helps Rolling Eyes Cool
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